Redondo Beach statistics - take 2
Oops! I made a substantial error when I crunched the December sales data and so I deleted the prior statistics post. DOM was calculated incorrectly. I have now fixed that. Median DOM is less than 3 months, but still climbing at 77 days. The rest of the posting is now corrected.
Here at the South Bay Beach Cities Bubble blog, we like to crunch the Redondo Beach real estate numbers. I guess some would call it a geek spectator sport! While we're waiting for the DataQuick numbers for December, I thought I'd look at what information I already have and then compare it to DataQuick later this month to see how far off I am.
At this point in my database construction, I would estimate that I am missing about 20% to 30% of the listings out there. But if I have a good representative sample of listings and of sales, and the numbers are sufficiently large, then that factor should not weigh heavily.
Domania seems to be really behind on updating its sales records from late November on. So I just manually searched Zillow and then updated by hand those sales for which I had inventory records, all the way back to early November.
Of my inventory records, so far I've only found 37 matching sales records for December. (MelissaData recorded 43 sales apiece in each of 90277 and 90278, so there is a lot of missing sale data out there!) The numbers I have are listed here. I went ahead and calculated the Median, Average, Min, and Max of the original asking price, the final sale price, the DOM, and the percent reduction (PCTRED) from the original asking price. PCTRED is positive; if it is negative, that means the final sale price was more than the original asking price.
Reed 9/21/2006 739000 12/26/2006 719000 96 2.7 Marshallfield 11/4/2006 644500 12/22/2006 644500 48 0.0 Axenty 10/11/2006 819900 12/22/2006 735000 72 10.4 Morgan 10/2/2006 834900 12/22/2006 800000 81 4.2 Esplanade 8/30/2006 640000 12/22/2006 635000 114 0.8 Ruxton 9/11/2006 709000 12/22/2006 690000 102 2.7 Marshallfield 10/19/2006 589000 12/21/2006 586466 63 0.4 Paseo de la Playa 5/18/2006 839000 12/21/2006 639000 217 23.8 Robinson 10/18/2006 609000 12/21/2006 589000 64 3.3 Rockefeller 11/6/2006 609999 12/20/2006 610000 44 0.0 Avenue D 10/18/2006 985000 12/20/2006 945000 63 4.1 Grant 11/12/2006 669000 12/19/2006 659000 37 1.5 Broadway 10/10/2006 974900 12/18/2006 929000 69 4.7 Emerald 10/18/2006 699000 12/18/2006 704500 61 -0.8 Esplanade 10/2/2006 895000 12/18/2006 825000 77 7.8 Vanderbilt 9/18/2006 809000 12/15/2006 799000 88 1.2 Ripley 6/21/2006 869000 12/15/2006 700000 177 19.5 Grevillea 9/17/2006 598000 12/15/2006 598000 89 0.0 Paseo de la Playa 9/21/2006 799000 12/15/2006 795000 85 0.5 Garnet 10/11/2006 1195000 12/14/2006 1285000 64 -7.5 Phelan 10/4/2006 610000 12/13/2006 595000 70 2.5 Huntington 7/25/2006 774900 12/13/2006 650000 141 16.1 Van Horne 9/27/2006 829900 12/13/2006 839000 77 -1.1 Grant 10/24/2006 529000 12/13/2006 565500 50 -6.9 Aviation 9/15/2006 535000 12/13/2006 475000 89 11.2 Francisca 9/28/2006 895000 12/12/2006 880000 75 1.7 The Village 5/30/2006 639999 12/12/2006 600000 196 6.3 Juanita 9/28/2006 829000 12/12/2006 805000 75 2.9 Armour 10/17/2006 699000 12/8/2006 683000 52 2.3 Stanford 9/8/2006 889000 12/7/2006 795000 90 10.6 Rockefeller 10/11/2006 749000 12/6/2006 739000 56 1.3 Huntington 10/15/2006 939000 12/6/2006 940000 52 -0.1 Mathews 8/9/2006 629000 12/5/2006 565000 118 10.2 Rockefeller 7/10/2006 599900 12/5/2006 538000 148 10.3 Camino de las Colinas 10/11/2006 1349000 12/5/2006 1299500 55 3.7 Calle Miramar 7/7/2006 1649000 12/1/2006 1400000 147 15.1 Carmelita 8/4/2006 1099000 12/1/2006 1025000 119 6.7 MEDIAN 774900 704500 77 2.7 AVERAGE 804646 764364 90 4.6 MIN 529000 475000 37 -7.5 MAX 1649000 1400000 217 23.8
ASKING is the original asking price that I was able to trace for a property. Keep in mind that I calculate DOM from the original listing date that I have recorded for a property, not what the last relisting date was in the MLS. So as you can see, DOM (days on market), is climbing, with average DOM now smack at 3 months (90 days). For November, raw average DOM for the beach cities, according to Shorewood, was about 60 days. Some of this difference is due to the way I calculate DOM - from the first ever listing date, not from the last relisting date. Plus of course, Shorewood's number is for all the beach cities, not just Redondo. In addition, my figures tend to understate DOM, because I only started compiling these records in late September, and for listings I took out of local paper advertisements at that time, I entered the date of newspaper publication as the original listing date of a property, when in reality a property featured in an ad was already listed for some time before that paper's publication.
As this market progresses, I expect PCTRED to tighten up as market participants get a clue and come to the realization that they aren't likely to get their full-blown fantasy asking prices. The smart realtors who can persuade their clients to do so will list properties at asking prices at much closer to real time sales figures, not what something might have sold for in the late spring of 2005.
But on the other hand, I could be totally wrong in placing faith in the market participants gaining wisdom. January 2007 sales figures for Redondo Beach, 90278 in particular, are looking the best they have in a year, and this could be pumping back up expectations of a boom market. (Never mind that sale activity in the rest of the beach city zip codes ranges from sluggish to dismal.) But I think it is a bear trap. Since New Year, new inventory for Redondo is hitting Zip Realty at a rate of over 3 properties a day. And by "new", I mean, property that is really a new listing, or at least not an expired listing since before late September. Even though Zip Realty calls them new listings, I am not even counting the relistings that been hitting Zip Realty, though I am recording price reductions in my records. So while sales might be pumped up, inventory is also coming on the market early and quickly.
And speaking of new inventory, this is what I have for Redondo since New Year:
The Village 1/12/2007 464000 Lucia 1/12/2007 1995000 Steinhart 1/12/2007 1275000 Pearl 1/11/2007 850000 Calle Mayor 1/10/2007 859000 Pacific Coast 1/10/2007 925000 Prospect 1/10/2007 388000 Grant 1/9/2007 875000 Morgan 1/9/2007 769000 Perkins 1/9/2007 650000 Paseo de Gracia 1/9/2007 1299000 Guadalupe 1/9/2007 879000 Esplanade 1/9/2007 2690000 Broadway 1/8/2007 1279000 Curtis 1/8/2007 749000 Blossom 1/8/2007 1219000 Pullman 1/8/2007 919000 Garnet 1/8/2007 1375000 Calle Mayor 1/7/2007 1895000 Juanita 1/7/2007 1399000 Juanita 1/6/2007 1369000 Calle Mayor 1/5/2007 709000 Grant 1/5/2007 799000 Vanderbilt 1/5/2007 529900 Grant 1/4/2007 839000 Felton 1/4/2007 689900 Grant 1/4/2007 829000 Ralston 1/3/2007 869000 Juanita 1/3/2007 939000 Pacific Coast 1/3/2007 730000 Paseo de la Playa 1/3/2007 1395000 The Village 1/3/2007 379000 Guadalupe 1/3/2007 1650000 Belmont 1/2/2007 799900 Irena 1/2/2007 919000 MEDIAN 872000 AVERAGE 1017176 MIN 379000 MAX 2690000
And here is what it looks like charted:
If these figures are any good at all, then they are telling us that there is this built-in expectation of major price gains between what sold in December and what is now being asked in January, at least by the new market participants. Notice the jump in median from $704,500 to $872,000. By the way, there are many high end properties being listed. Not captured in these figures are two Esplanade properties, each with an asking price over $3 million, listed just before Christmas.
When I have better sales figures, I will try and update these calculations. The high end sales seem a little thin, judging by the first graph above.
2 Comments:
THanks for crunching and publishing these numbers Bearmaster.
FWIW - the flip around the corner from me in the 90505 (1800 sf) part of Torrance was sold in July for $809,000. After new paint, carpet, windows and a major kitchen and bath remodel came back on the market in October for $899,000. Price reduced now to $859,000.
All I can say to the flipper is good luck coming out even.
Ouch that's gonna hurt!
By the way, I've added this link to my housing bubble blogs map page, but if you haven't seen it, I encourage everybody to check out the humorous side of house flipping.
Man I wish I had the time to analyze more of the south bay cities. I think it would be an invaluable service to bubble watchers, people who must buy a home, people who are trying to sell a home, maybe even some realtors!
Up to now I've been assuming that realtors have computerized tools that with a click of a button will tell them all I can barely tell them and a whole lot more. But maybe the industry is not as computerized to keep up with what's going on as I had thought.
Yesterday the condo directly across the street from my apartment had its umpteenth open house. It was glaringly obvious, as the open house signs were cluttering up the sidewalk on our side of the street too. Did it sell? The yardarm and brochures were still out there this morning. Price has not budged.
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